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  • Pretentious Boaters Attitude

    Please Note... I renamed this thread from it’s original “Yacht Club Attitude” because I inadvertently offended some members of Yacht clubs, something I don’t know much about. My apologies, please read on to hear the rest of the rest of the story.

    I experienced what can best be described as “Pretentious boaters Attitude” today, something that I’ve never seen in Alaska before.

    First off Alaskana are about the least presumptive population you will ever see. You might have a guy wearing dirty overalls for example and be an Orthodontitst, and own a 50’ Yacht (that is true because the guy two slips down from me is an Orthodontist, and his wife is dome dental specialist as well). We do not presume anything about anyone, and in general we never think we are better than anyone. In general the more affluent an Alaskan is the more humble they are...,In general.

    Today I was walking the dock and noticed a new to the harbor boat, a pretty maroon Nordic Tug 48. (This time of year we seem to get all the new boats that just made the passage from Washington with their new owners) The windows and doors were all open, and theboat had the lok of a boatthat was being cleaned out after along trip.

    Of course I am curious soi walk to the back of the boat and say hi to the owner, who is standing with a stogie in his mouth. My first words are “pretty boat, you new to the harbor”

    The owner looks over at me and says, “Yes it is a very nice boat”. Not gee thanks, yes I just got it, or anything like that. First clue something was amiss with this guy. Just a little clue.

    Then he says, “if you’re looking for work I am hiring labor to clean the boat”

    Sorry, but that just floor’d me. He could have easily said “hey, if you know anybody that is looking for some work, i could sure use some help getting this boat cleaned up”, or something along those lines.

    My opinion, first encounter, this guy is going to make a lot of friends in Seward Alaska.

    So... Have you ever experienced “yacht club attitude”? If so how did you deal with it???
    Kevin Sanders
    Bayliner 4788 Seward, Alaska
    Map where I am right now
    https://share.findmespot.com/shared/...j23OquWOj2N3Xe

  • #2
    One of the down sides to boating, is the only thing required for ownership is $$$$. This does not take in to account people that are inconsiderate and feel like they are above another person. I trust this guy will have a difficult time while in Seward. I can say that I have not experienced this attitude, but if I were to find someone with this outlook, I would not spend much time convincing him otherwise. Fortunately most boaters are quite amiable and helpful as well as willing to help others. Then there are some losers!
    Destiny
    Bayliner 5288
    Port Ludlow, WA

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    • #3
      This is not a Yacht Club Attitude. It’s just an attitude. Has nothing to do with money or member affiliate.
      Azzurra
      Seattle, WA
      Ocean Alexander 54

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      • #4
        I agree 100% with Tiltrider1. We are pretty new to boating community although I had done a lot of sailing in my younger days. Almost everyone here at the marina has been very friendly and helpful. Everyone says hi when you pass them on the docks. Over the winter we joined a small yacht club and they have been more than friendly. I personally believe you will find a cross section of "types" of people in any group.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Tiltrider1 View Post
          This is not a Yacht Club Attitude. It’s just an attitude. Has nothing to do with money or member affiliate.
          I agree, and I apologize for the connotation. I just could not think of another way to say it.
          Kevin Sanders
          Bayliner 4788 Seward, Alaska
          Map where I am right now
          https://share.findmespot.com/shared/...j23OquWOj2N3Xe

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          • #6
            I find the average cigar smoker to fit your description. Nothing can stink up a marina more than one cigar. It is not possible for cigar smokers to be unaware of how offensive they are, they simply don’t care what others think. I will say it is very rare to run into a truly offensive boater but every now and then one sneaks into the ranks.
            Azzurra
            Seattle, WA
            Ocean Alexander 54

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            • #7
              "looking for work" made me laugh. Anyone who owns a boat doesn't need to look for work. hahaha.

              Looking for workers -- now that's the thing.

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              • #8

                Don't ya just wish there were legal ways to reduce the gene pool...?
                1988 '38 "Liberty"
                Cummins 6BT'S 210hp
                Navigating Raritan Bay

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                • #9
                  Kevin,

                  As a very happy member of two Yacht Clubs, and the Past Commodore of one of them I find you remarks, extremely rude. I hate to tell you this but you are being as rude as he was. What makes you think that your judgement of him having a "Yacht Club Attitude" is any different then him thinking you were looking for work?

                  Yes there are some Yacht Clubs, whose members think that they above everyone else, but I think you will find that most yacht clubs are filled with down to earth, hard working, good people.

                  Scott
                  Scott Jones
                  Sea Ray 440 Aft Cabin
                  Liveaboard Start Date 1/May/16

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                  • #10
                    A little harsh, there. The guy was insulting and I have met some boaters that acted just like that. In each case there belonged to yacht clubs and made a point of telling me that they did and expecting that by mentioning the name I should drop to my knees.
                    Most yacht club members are great people, just regular people that are great to be around, but there are those and unfortunately, act badly. But I doubt that being a part of a club is the reason, more they were A-holes to begin with.
                    I have know Kevin for many years and I can tell you that this person must have had a real affect on him for him to make the comment that he did. It would be nice if those here would have the kind of understanding that we expect other to have.

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                    • #11
                      I think Kevin was jus trying to describe the self important attitude of this person and chose an out dated stereo type as his description. We can easily forgive him. In fact I invite you Kevin to join my Yacht Club, I think you would fit in perfectly with all our beer toting, salmon swallowing, bayliner owners but no wearing white after Labor Day.
                      Azzurra
                      Seattle, WA
                      Ocean Alexander 54

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                      • #12
                        Kevin already walked the comment back. Move on.... We all say things we wish we hadn't...I know I have! Past Event...
                        Destiny
                        Bayliner 5288
                        Port Ludlow, WA

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                        • #13
                          Thanks for all the support guys. Again, my choice of words was not the best, and I apologize if i offended anyone that belongs to a yacht club.

                          Really the post should be titled “pretentious boaters attitude” I went ahead and renamed the thread “pretentious boaters attitude” having learned my lesson from the good yacht club members here.

                          It is really his behavior that caught me by surprise. I have been around boaters with every size and quality of boat for two decades, and in that time I have never felt “put down” like i did that day, by that person. It is difficult for me to articulate the conversation so that others can understand, but rest assured, I am not a sensitive person, and I was very much offended.

                          We are a working harbor, with a mix of recreational and commercial folks. All I did was say hi, like I do to pretty much every new boat that comes into my dock float. I was polite to the gentleman, but I can tell you that there are others that if they would have been spoken to in that way would have put the person in his place.

                          I do not know about the rest of the world but here in Alaska we are careful not to make assumptions about people based on their attire. We are a casual dress place, and you are more likely to see a very high net worth person in Alaska dressed very casually, than dressed “up”. I do not remember what I was wearing exactly, but it was sunny so I am guessing a par of cargo shorts, and a tee shirt, and tennies. Pretty standard attire. I am also a very clean cut looking guy. Mid 50’s and look it, with very short hair, and no beard. I mention these things so that people can form a mental picture of me walking up and saying hi.

                          We all speak differently, and choose different words, I understand that. This guys whole demeanor was “I’m better than you”, and that pissed me off guys. Enough to post it here. I also have enough class not to disclose the actual persons boat name, and have not discussed this with others on the dock. That wouldn’t be fair.
                          Kevin Sanders
                          Bayliner 4788 Seward, Alaska
                          Map where I am right now
                          https://share.findmespot.com/shared/...j23OquWOj2N3Xe

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tiltrider1 View Post
                            I think Kevin was jus trying to describe the self important attitude of this person and chose an out dated stereo type as his description. We can easily forgive him. In fact I invite you Kevin to join my Yacht Club, I think you would fit in perfectly with all our beer toting, salmon swallowing, bayliner owners but no wearing white after Labor Day.
                            Thanks! We do not have active yacht clubs here. Perhaps I should go to one and try it out.
                            Kevin Sanders
                            Bayliner 4788 Seward, Alaska
                            Map where I am right now
                            https://share.findmespot.com/shared/...j23OquWOj2N3Xe

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                            • #15
                              Good job elaborating on the incident, Kevin...

                              Unfortunately, there are some yacht clubs that have caused the perception that all of them are alike. Not so...obviously. But those that express the an air and attitude of the "1%'ers" really do contribute to a bad name.

                              Perceptions are earned...I am reminded of "where's there's smoke there's fire"...

                              Be a sailboat owner for 35 years and you'll see reactions that are certainly undeserved...but, hey, we caused some of it ourselves. Just as your dock "gentleman" reacted to you...

                              As a recommendation I would offer "carry a cigar" for those "special occasions". But make sure it's a good one...

                              Keep up the good work...it is appreciated...
                              1988 '38 "Liberty"
                              Cummins 6BT'S 210hp
                              Navigating Raritan Bay

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